tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6321329750397667796.post925328587532523245..comments2024-03-26T19:47:09.310+08:00Comments on Lao Ren Cha - 老人茶: In Defense of Taiwanese Men, Part I: or, Did I Really Move to Taiwan to Escape Sexism?Jenna Lynn Codyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04032277820150000198noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6321329750397667796.post-32743569266910775422012-03-27T19:32:57.749+08:002012-03-27T19:32:57.749+08:00I just. don't. hear. it.
For the most part*,...<b>I just. don't. hear. it. </b><br /><br />For the most part*, neither do I but maybe I'm just not listening hard enough.<br /><br /><br />*Some indirect references to the friend zone but it's not called that here.blobOfNeuronsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6321329750397667796.post-34273424666137680992012-03-26T09:38:47.603+08:002012-03-26T09:38:47.603+08:00It's not that I don't hear sexist opinions...It's not that I don't hear sexist opinions being voiced - I do. I don't like it, and I'm not pretending Taiwan is some perfect world of perfect treatment towards women.<br /><br />It's the outright *hate* that I don't hear. <br /><br />Although it bothers me a lot that much of the hate speech towards women comes from other women (ie that "leftover women" Jenna Lynn Codyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04032277820150000198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6321329750397667796.post-5758107397405470062012-03-26T08:36:18.514+08:002012-03-26T08:36:18.514+08:00I just. don't. hear. it.
I do.<b>I just. don't. hear. it. </b><br /><br />I do.Michael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6321329750397667796.post-76996382374204670772012-03-25T01:16:13.268+08:002012-03-25T01:16:13.268+08:00cj brings up a great point here: "I do worry ...cj brings up a great point here: "I do worry that misogyny/sexism and homophobia in Taiwan, precisely because it is of a less virulent strain, people just shrug it off as no big deal, and we get no progress."<br /><br />One of the things I enjoy about living in Taipei City is that it is one of the gay-friendliest cities I can think of. And yet there is so little discussion of topics Catherine Shuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06759711296632260503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6321329750397667796.post-84924549799740425482012-03-24T18:45:40.721+08:002012-03-24T18:45:40.721+08:00I dunno, Arizona's proposed laws (as well as V...I dunno, Arizona's proposed laws (as well as Virginia's) are pretty damn huge steps back. <br /><br />The thing is, contraception debate aside, this has actually been a problem in the US since long before the sad fat man in a tiny room called someone a "slut" for wanting basic health care coverage (and nobody in the party he allies with repudiated him, not really). <br /><br />Jenna Lynn Codyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04032277820150000198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6321329750397667796.post-51181930145100288762012-03-24T12:04:13.112+08:002012-03-24T12:04:13.112+08:00I think what we're seeing in the US is men rea...I think what we're seeing in the US is men reacting to an attack on their social power. I think it's important to remember that this is mostly a reaction to Obama's policy of requiring employers to cover contraception, which is a larger step forward than Arizona's law would be a step backward, and if I'm not mistaken is also more progressive than Taiwan, which still doesn'Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08654770225487196179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6321329750397667796.post-43439315906342396382012-03-24T11:15:48.457+08:002012-03-24T11:15:48.457+08:00CJ - I feel like we're getting no progress in ...CJ - I feel like we're getting no progress in the USA either. I like to hope that this like when you are sick and take medicine, and you feel worse for awhile even though you're getting better, because your body is working harder to kill the sickness. I hope this is the last gasp of the reactionaries and their moral strictures dying, like a virus we've taken medicine for, before we Jenna Lynn Codyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04032277820150000198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6321329750397667796.post-29475475955693785782012-03-24T11:13:59.973+08:002012-03-24T11:13:59.973+08:00Very true, and good point.
But I have to say I en...Very true, and good point.<br /><br />But I have to say I enjoy not being attacked online and treated badly (or being ignored) out in the world - I couldn't say the same in the USA.<br /><br />What's sad is that the things you hear those idiots say in Taiwan were not socially acceptable in the US five years ago, but these days...I wonder.Jenna Lynn Codyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04032277820150000198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6321329750397667796.post-5481721989648547782012-03-24T11:03:39.625+08:002012-03-24T11:03:39.625+08:00I'm not sure the lack of vitriol means Taiwan ...I'm not sure the lack of vitriol means Taiwan is less sexist, per se. I've heard of a lot of well-educated, non-religious Taiwanese men having attitudes that would not be socially acceptable among people I know in the US, things like once a woman sleeps with her boyfriend she belongs to him, or that a boyfriend has the right to control who his girlfriend hangs out with, or that husbands Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08654770225487196179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6321329750397667796.post-13414072287302283692012-03-23T22:27:32.643+08:002012-03-23T22:27:32.643+08:00Contraception is not accessible to women who can&#...Contraception is not accessible to women who can't afford it, and sex is a part of a healthy life, not recreation. Unless you believe that only women with money should be able to have sex? Even when married if they don't want kids? And poor women shouldn't? (Yes, there are condoms, but there is also a thing called 'latex allergy' and they're not quite as effective. In factJenna Lynn Codyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04032277820150000198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6321329750397667796.post-57489054320813040382012-03-23T22:01:50.289+08:002012-03-23T22:01:50.289+08:00"...we "won the fight for equal rights!&..."...we "won the fight for equal rights!" - which, of course, we haven't. Not while accessible and affordable contraception and abortion are still being discussed..l"<br /><br />Contraception and abortion are already accessible, and while legalized killing of unborn infants is still opposed by many people, legalized contraception is not an issue for any serious political Readinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6321329750397667796.post-16252118360011258212012-03-23T11:21:53.817+08:002012-03-23T11:21:53.817+08:00Thanks for your thoughtful and heartfelt commentar...Thanks for your thoughtful and heartfelt commentary. I have to say, as a Taiwanese in the US, this recent primaries season has been through-the-looking-glass mind-boggling. I was just telling a friend how, back in the day, when I read Margaret Atwood's Handmaid's Tale in middle school or so, I thought it far too heavy-handed and more or less dismissed it as a vestige of bygone times. cjnoreply@blogger.com